Thursday, 1 October 2009
All All Weather
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With the flat turf season winding down, we're moving more and more on to the all weather. My original analysis was undertaken before all weather racing started, so interesting times ahead. Tomorrow all the qualifying races are on an artificial surface.
Lingfield
13:35 WAAHEJ (9/4)
14:05 QUINSMAN (7/2)
Wolverhampton
19:50 LA TOREADOR (4/1)
20:20 TIGER DREAMS (7/2)
As we saw today, you never know, but it looks as if there will be no overlays tomorrow.
P.
Wednesday, 30 September 2009
Quality Not Quantity Required
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Plenty of meetings again tomorrow but only three suitable races
Ayr
14:20 SILVER LINNET(5/1)
17:50 POSITIVITY (5/1)
Goodwood
17:40 BRANDYWELL BOY (5/1)
Looks like another blank day tomorrow and another opportunity to lose more wedge trading.
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Tuesday, 29 September 2009
Busy Day
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Tomorrow four meetings throw up six qualifying races
Kempton
19:20 FLYING DUTCHMAN (7/2)
Newcastle
14.10 THUNDER BAY (5/2)
14:40 DARCY'S PRIDE (4/1)
Nottingham
17:10 LEITZU (8/1)
Salisbury
14:00 SEASONAL CROSS (7/2)
16:50 ORPEN WINGER (4/1)
Maybe LEITZU will offer value but it looks like little else will.
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Monday, 28 September 2009
Ho Hum
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As for tomorrow,two races :-
Warwick
16:10 SIR BRUNO (9/2)
16:40 TRULY MAGIC (9/4)
Not much likelihood of an overlay there.
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Sunday, 27 September 2009
Elna Bright Provides First Value Winner
The first post of this blog was on Sunday 16th August which just shows the patience required when searching for value.
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There doesn't look to be a likelihood of anything being overlayed tomorrow but for completeness sake the four races considered are :-
Brighton
15:50 CHOREOGRAPHY (5/1)
17:20 BERMONDSEY BOB (5/1)
17:50 MULTAHAB (9/2)
Wolverhampton
17:00 INCINCIBLE ISLE (5/1)
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Elna Bright Provides First Value Winner
Saturday, 26 September 2009
Back To Business
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Tomorrowoffers four races for consideration :-
Ascot
15:50 BAHAMIAN MUSIC (7/1)
17:00 ELNA BRIGHT (12/1)
Musselburgh
14:30 SEA SALT (8/1)
17:20 DISTANT SUN (4/1)
ELNA BRIGHT is crrently trading at 18 (back) on Betfair.
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Thursday, 24 September 2009
Value on Show
Ascot
16:55 GLOUCESTER (10/1)
Wolverhampton
18:50 FEELIN FOXY (4/1)
21:20 CAVENDISH (20/1)
CAVENDISH is 21 to back with Betfair now and is likely to lengthen.
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Wednesday, 23 September 2009
Blank Day Coming Up
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Tomorrow there are no races which meet my criteria, therefore I will play a little on Betfair trying to get some sort of idea how people make huge wedges of money trading.
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Tuesday, 22 September 2009
Midweek Treat - DOME ROCKET
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Tomorrow has three races which fit the inspection criteria:-
Goodwood
14:10 WE HAVE A DREAM (11/4)
17:30 COLORAS (7/2)
Kempton
19:20 DOME ROCKET (20/1)
DOME ROCKET will be the horse I'll be paying special attention to once my tea's settled, looks as though there will be some value about.
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Monday, 21 September 2009
Slack Day Ahead
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Another slack day tomorrow, with just one race of interest :-
Folkestone
14:50 TEN DOWN (7/1)
It loks as if it'll be another blank day from a value point of view.
P.
Sunday, 20 September 2009
Slack Times
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A little more exciting for me as I wrestled with trading again and again my carefully scraped together trades were devastated by one which went haywire and once again I was obliged to recover with a "Dutch". Ah well trading fills the not inconsiderable gaps between value bets.
Tomorrow three races fit the criteria :-
Hamilton
14:40 VITORIA (6/1)
16:40 KILLER CLASS (7/1)
Leicester
15:20 NICKEL SILVER (8/1)
I suppose that it's possible any of the three could be overlayed although, at the moment, there is nothing about.
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Craicattack Close Up Third
I didn't spot any of the others being overlayed. SIR SANDICLIFFE (5/1) and ALANBROOKE (5/2) made the frame and ELITE LAND (2/1) . BRUNELLESCHI (15/2) and ISPHAHAN (11/2) finished well down their respective fields.
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I had a hectic day yesterday hence the delay in posting this. I decided to give Betangel professional a shot after a few years of trying to get some sort of idea of what "trading" was all about and failing dismally. My warped logic, went thus "I can't make money trading therefore, as I've had loads of practice, it must be the software edge everybody else has got". Naturally this was not the case at all, my target of paying for the software meant I had to make 67p (and will have to for the duration of the time I 've paid) Trading remains a mystery to me, on one race I made 9 positions, 7 of which triggered the stop loss I had placed to prevent losing every penny I possess, luckily the horse lost allowing me to break even. By the time I decided to recover my losses I was well in the hole as the tiny profits I made from the few successful trades were easily swallowed up by the massive losses when one of the losing trades went in. I finished up using the Dutching facility which I really like to recover and get just over my target profit. I'm very stubborn, however, and will try trading again today.
Today only one race fits my criteria :-
Hamilton
16:10 HINDU KUSH (9/1)
I'll keep an eye on it, just in case, 10/1 is available with a few online bookies as I write,
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Friday, 18 September 2009
CRAICATTACK
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Tomorrow only offers one really interesting horse amongst the six considered
Catterick
14:00 SIR SANDICLIFFE (5/1)
16:45 ELITE LAND (4/1)
Newbury
13:50 CRAICATTACK (20/1)
Newmarket
13:45 BRUNELLESCHI (9/2)
15:40 ALANBROOKE (5/1)
16:50 ISPHAHAN (7/1)
CRAICATTACK is trading at 18 on Betfair as I write this and looks set to lengthen.
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Thursday, 17 September 2009
Lean Spell Continues
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Tomorrow looks to be unfruitful in the quest for value three races to consider :-
Newbury
16:30 CALALOO (7/2)
Newmarket
17:25 LETHAL COMBINATION (8/1)
Wolverhampton
19:50 RICHELIEU (7/2)
It's possible the LETHAL COMBINATION will offer value in places, we shall see.
P.
Wednesday, 16 September 2009
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Things are pretty "flat" at the moment. I've never been a believer in luck and lucky streaks, only in pure statistics, but it's at times like this when it's easy to see why people set such store in that elusive factor. From a personal point of view I just sit it out.Tomorrow there are three races which qualify on "number of runners" grounds
Ayr
16:50 EXIT SMILING (10/1)
17:50 GALA CASINO STAR (8/1)
Pontefract
16:30 RAGAMUFFIN MAN (5/1)
EXIT SMILING looks as though it may offer a value bet, possibly even GALA CASINO STAR as well.
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Tuesday, 15 September 2009
Mild Midweek Fare
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Two races where a overlays look likely tomorrow
Sandown
17:10 UNCLE FRED (16/1)
Yarmouth
15:55 LORD THEO (10/1)
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Monday, 14 September 2009
METHAALY Will Be Overlayed
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Tomorrow things are a little more interesting :-
Haydock
16:00 METHAALY (25/1)
16:30 HADA MEN (9/2)
Yarmouth
16:40 TOTAL IMPACT (4/1)
METHAALY is already 17.5 on Betfair and is likely to lengthen further.
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Sunday, 13 September 2009
Backers Frenzy For "Thunderous"
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After this mornings tome anybody reading probably won't want a lengthy discourse, so I'll just say that two races qualify tomorrow
Musselburgh
14:20 OPTICAL ILLUSION (4/1)
17:50 FINSBURY (11/4)
No interest there, might as well go to work instead,
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To Trade or Not to Trade? That is The Question
The offer did bring to mind the question of whether or not "trading" (using a betting exchange for wagers) my selections is viable, since the whole concept is based on "value". The tricky bit is can the traders spot the "value" which I think is present, if so the price should shorten until the value is gone, if not then their is unlikely to be a "shortening effect". I'm still undecided on this and haven't enough stats to back me up, but I have had a little success using the following guidelines :-
1. The selection (I use only those identified in this blog)must offer value i.e. it must be greater than 10/1 then even if it doesn't shrink in price it is still overlayed and will show a profit in the long run.
2. I'm using a cautious approach and firstly offer a back price of either twice the forecast price in The Sporting Life, or if the price on The Exchange is greater than The Sporting Life price, twice the offered price.
3. If the back price is taken, I offer a lay price, usually about five points lower, although several have "come in " ten points on the exchanges.
4. As the prices are overlays and offer a statistical profit in the long run I will "keep" the price into running (several have shortened to as low as 2/1 in running) although you need to be quick if spreading the profit across the field and one of the free trading software packages e.g Betangel Basic is essential as it contains a "greening" function.
The drawback with this approach is the lack of liquidity on the exchanges. Whilst it is possible to make a few quid, from a trading point of view it would be very small beer, good practise for the beginner though.
I had a little success using this method yesterday when offering 21 (back) for RIO COBOLO which was forecast priced at 11/2 in The Sporting Life. It actually got as far as 22 or 23 and was backed back down to as far as 10 or 11 at one point pre-race (I chickened out and took 17.5 (lay) although my beautiful wife held her nerve longer and got 14 (lay)). As it happened RIO COBOLO (opened at 10/1 shortened to 8/1 went off at 9/1) might as well have been better employed on Scarbrough beach, finishing a dismal last but one.
Of the others, none reached the value trigger, SURUOR went off 7/2 fav and sank without trace, HAZY DANCER in spite of being forecast 10/1 opened at 11/2 on the course before drifting to 9/1 then recovering a little to go off at 8/1 and trailing in at the back of the field. GREYLAMI also opened shorter than the forecast 10/1 at 13/2 shortened to 5/1 (on course) and scraped a place.
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On to day, refreshed and with renewed enthusiasm. There are four races which have selections
Bath
14:25 YURITUNI (11/4)
16:10 THUNDEROUS MOOD (14/1)
Ffos
17:05 BRANDYWELL BOY (5/2)
Goodwood
14:35 PRINCE OF THEBES (33/1!)
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out the two value selections here, even a Civil Engineer can do it. THUNDEROUS MOOD is 20/1 (18.5 Betfair) with Stan James as I write (I've offered 29 (back)) PRINCE OF THEBES is 33/1 with Skybet (28 Betfair , my offer 70). Lets hope for some glory.
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Friday, 11 September 2009
Returno
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The thick end of a fortnight in Majorca was great as long as you stayed out of the capital, where an English bloke was brained and died after a few days, the female leader of a gypsy drugs gang was shot in the head and killed. The break gave me the time to do a little other writing as well as resting and I've now got the bones of a short story, to tidy up. I'd always fancied trying to get a pece of fiction published and this is going to be the first attempt.
Back to the racing, tomorrow's thrown up a couple of interesting horses out of the four races that fit my requirements :-
Chester
16:30 RIO CABOLO 11/2
Goodwood
14:10 SURUOR 7/2
15:10 HAZY DANCER 10/1
17:30 GREYLAMI 10/1
I'll be watching the last two with interest.
P.
Saturday, 29 August 2009
Betfair or Bookies?
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The, at times, huge discrepancy in price between bookmakers and Betfair is worth mentioning at this point. There is much made of the alleged 20% better average price available with Betfair (by Betfair) over bookmakers. If you're a favourite backer this edge seems to be, at the very least, elusive. In practice the short priced horses seem to be comparable between bookies and Betfair, however, the longer priced animals can be significantly, sometimes spectacularly different. Why? Maybe the Betfair layers are more generous than bookies or maybe they have less respect for the "rags", whatever the reason ther are some juicy prices out there for people seeking overlays. Keep your eyes open.
I'm going for a fortnights holiday tomorrow so this fledgeling Blog will be suspended for a while. Tomorrow there are four races to look at
Beverley
16:15 GRAND ART
Goodwood
15:20 MAKE AMENDS
17:05 SWOP
17:40 STEP IT UP
Of these GRAND ART and SWOP look possible value bets being quoted at 16/1 and 10/1 repectively by The Sporting Life. Be lucky, but better, be patient.
P.
Friday, 28 August 2009
Jaw Dropping
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When you see a value bet like today, it's Christmas come early, grab it and thank the gods. Several years ago, one bookie offered a horse I'd identified, running at Ripon at 20/1. I had my piece then settled back. The horse opened at about 12/1 which boosted my confidence, was backed in to 8/1 and went on to win. Of course days like that don't come along too often and it didn't work out today, but it when it does, life seems sweet.
Tomorrow in spite of a plethora of meetings there are only two races of interest
Newmarket
17:05 MOHEEBB
Windsor
17:10 HANNICEAN
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Thursday, 27 August 2009
Imponderables
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Taking the question of performance a little further. One of the reasons successful gambling on sporting events is so difficult is because there are so many imponderables which the bettor simply can't assess. That is why backing favourites is frequently unprofitable and attacking a generous (or perhaps urecognised) edge based on solid statistics is so attractive. Even so, and no matter how well thought out a plan, sometimes a horse just isn't up to the mark, feels off colour, can't be bothered etc.
Onwards and upwards, tomorrow, three races are of interest
Bath
18:40 TASTE THE WINE
19:10 RAIMOND RIDGE
Hamilton
19:30 PRIMO WAY
According to the Sporting Life betting forecast TASTE THE WINE and PRIMO WAY both look potential overlays the first at 10/1 the second at a mouth watering 33/1.
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Wednesday, 26 August 2009
Overlays Come and Go
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Only one race to consider the 16:50 at Lingfield in which ONCEUPONATIME gets the vote but at a forecast price of 7/1 an overlay, once again looks unlikely with the bookies. There's a whole £3 available about it on Betfair at 15, who knows which way it will go but it might pay to keep an eye on it.
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Tuesday, 25 August 2009
Lean Spell Continues
Ayr
16:40 CAPTAIN SCOOBY
Catterick
15:20 SPIDERS STAR
15:50 DANCE AND DANCE
Warwick
14:30 TAKE TEN
Maybe Thursday will offer something better.
P.
Monday, 24 August 2009
Calculating Value Price
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Since there are no races which fit my criteria tomorrow, now seems as good a time as any to decide exactly how to determine value. There are a lot of ideas about this crucial aspect of betting. some based on logic others on "feel". How often have you heard a television "expert" utter the words "Predicton's Postulator is way overpriced at 10/1", well, I concede never, since no such horse exists but you get the picture. They never quantify it but still seem convinced of its accuracy. I prefer facts.
So how did I arrive at 11/1 for value and occasionally mention 14/1. Logic thats how.
Take the above Predicton's Postulator example. For the horse to be overpriced its actual chance of winning must be less than 10/1.
In my analysis I calculated the percentage of winning top rated horses then divided that figure into one hundred to obtain a "break even" price. The next step was to "re-visit" the analysis removing all top rated horses priced at less than the "break even" figure. Then back to the first step with the revised list. This process was repeated until the percentage did not reduce, this gave the value price. If the percentage continues to reduce, level stakes profit can't be made. Give it a try with your own selection process.
That's all folks.
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Sunday, 23 August 2009
Jockeyship
PEGASUS LAD (7/2) didn't get anywhere near overlayed, but it did show taking the lead 3 out before fading to midfield.
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Mondays alway seem a bit slow, maybe, everybody's drawing breath after a hectic Saturday, anyway, there's only one race to look at for me. My ratings confirm the accepted view that the poorest racing fare is early in the week and this week is no exception.
Hamilton
3:50 JENNY'S PRIDE
Unless you can find a blunder and the bookies don't cancel the bet because of a "palpable error" (funny how punters can't do that isn't it?) there is no value to be had with the forecast price being 4/1
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Saturday, 22 August 2009
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After a swift headcount and, including the races at York, considered in the spirit of "comradely co-operation" (if there is such a thing) in a weak moment, I looked at 21 handicap races this week. Of those races only 4 threw up value bets, with no winners and only one place. Not an unusual state of affairs when expecting a 10% strike rate. Although the overall profit is enhanced by ignoring place betting and doubling up win stakes, the psychological impact of backing long strings of losers requires not only a deep bank but also a strong nerve (there's a better than even chance of getting six losers in a row and a ten loser run is approximately as likely as a winning favourite)
What of the rest? Those that didn't offer value? There were 17 races and 6 winners, way over that anticipated. Is there any reason for that? Only that it lies within statistically acceptable limits. Next week there may be none.
It all brings tomorrow and the opportunity to scour the cards, once more, so I have and guess what, two races to play with
Musselburgh
16:20 TORNADODANCER
17:20 PEGASUS LAD
The Mark Johnson horse won't offer value, but TORNADODANCER might, we'll see.
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Friday, 21 August 2009
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Tomorrow should be interesting since it will be the first Saturday since I started this blog and there look to be a couple of overlay possibilities.
The full list of possibles is
Bath
18.15 THUNDER GORGE
Chester
14:55 MUNEEF
17:10 ZUWAAR
Sandown
16:55 LADY PATTERN
Only THUNDER GORGE and LADY PATTERN look to have a realistic chance of being offered at value prices if The Sporting Life betting forecast is anything to go by.
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Thursday, 20 August 2009
Wink, Wink, Inside Info.
If my colleague was sober enough and risked betting in the handicaps at York and backed the horses advised at the undervalue prices on offer, then she did ok, WEBBOW grubbed a place (10/1) due to the field size and NOBLE STORM won (9/2).
Well done K.
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One of the great advantages of considering recent form and class, is the insight it gives you into the trainer's and connection heads. You will frequently find that horses have been highly thought of and tried in races of a much higher quality than the one under consideration, but due to a relatively poor showing are dismissed by the bookies and punters alike. It's almost like free stable info. and well worth considering when the price is right.
Back to attacking the bookies margin then.
Chester
15:05 GUNNER LINDLEY
16:50 SAFEBREAKER
Salisbury
16:45 MAGIC WARRIOR
The two horses at Chester seem unlikely to be on offer at a "value" price, but MAGIC WARRIOR looks as if it may be overlayed (Sporting Life forecast 16/1)
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Wednesday, 19 August 2009
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I spent a little time looking at races which I would not normally consider, these days, due to a colleague going to York races tomorrow. The two handicaps there don't look as if they are going to offer any value with Webbow (14:50)being forecast at 10/1 (I'd want a minimum of 14/1 in fields this size and even then only bet with somebody else's money) and Noble Storm (16:40) even worse at 11/2.
No, the interest for me lies in other less salubrious venues. The appropriate sized fields occur as follows :-
Chepstow
19:05 ARTHURS EDGE
Epsom
17:15 EPSOM SALTS
18.55 PURUS
Lingfield
17:00 ROCKET ROB
Two of the above may be overlayed tomorrow and worthy of interest, they are ARTHURS EDGE and PURUS forecast at 10/1 and 14/1 respectively,
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Tuesday, 18 August 2009
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So how does the bettor go about determining which horse has the best balance of recent form and class? I suppose that there are any number of ways which this can be achieved. Personally I use a mathematical approach to rate each horse in the field using those criteria, then select the highest rated. This approach removes the need for judgement and the associated self-doubt which accompanies it. Whatever method is used, if it is logical and consistent the horse with the current best form/class balance ought to be readily identified, then it's just a question of patience and attacking the overlay when it arises.
Tomorrow two races qualify for closer attention :-
FOLKESTONE
7:20 THETA WAVE
KEMPTON
8:40 SATISFACTION LIFE
THETA WAVE looks like going off favourite or thereabouts, but SATISFACTION LIFE is forecast 12/1 in the Sporting Life so I'll be watching this one closely.
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Monday, 17 August 2009
Value Factors
MISARO was nibbled at on Betfair shrinking from around 22 to about 17. Ran competetively for a fair portion of the race but faded to finish out of the money in the end.
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I've mentioned the races I select, but having done that there is a need to determine whether there is a "value" horse in the race. It's no good just looking at every horse priced 11/1+, since most of them are still under value due to lack of ability at that level. There is a need to identify "over layed" horses only.
If you've ever tried to analyse a race using conventional means, recent form, course, distance weight, class, draw etc. then you've probably done hours of work to identify an odds on favourite, which a often as not fails to oblige anyway.
I've tried to identify the key factors which will on occasion throw up a potential winner at a juicy price. In the end I settled on a combination of recent form and class, that's all.
Tomorrow is unlikely to offer a value opportunity using this approach, three races offering short to moderate price selections :
Brighton
16:20 FLEUR DE LION
Nottingham
19:30 ENACT
20:00 BOLLIN JUDITH
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Sunday, 16 August 2009
Which Race?
In the event Bold Cross finished 2nd after going to the front around about the distance, shame really.
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So, how do I decide on the race? Well you already know that handicaps are where I consider the value to lay, but, as ever some are better than others. My analysis suggests that the optimum field size (when plotting winning chance against price) is 10 or 11 runners.
Taking tomorrows racing, that gives,5 possible races, Kempton 14:30, Windsor 18:35 & 19:05, Wolverhampton 15:45 and Yarmouth 19:20. As it happens the Yarmouth race is out due to one horses form which invalidates it leaving four races.
The selections for each race are :-
Kempton 14:30 - RAFTA
Windsor 18:35 - MISARO
Windsor 19:05 - RESORT
Wolverhampton - WHAT A FELLA
Three of them are likely to be favourite, or thereabouts making 11/1 extremely unlikely, although bookies do make mistakes, as do Betfair layers. MISARO on the other hand is forecast at 20/1 on The Sporting Life site and currently has a couple of quid available at 22 on Betfair, so 11/1 minimum is distinctly possible.
Anyway, we'll see how they go,
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The Search For Value
I suppose that since I'm bothering to write this, it is fairly obvious that I that it does.
I searched for it for twenty years and believe that I've found one area in which it exists, horse racing handicaps.
It exists because of the conventional nature of the betting industry in this area. Most punters will, understandably focus on the shorter priced horses, based on experts view of form. Because these experts set great store by the, often relatively miniscule, weights, seen as the reason for why handicaps are so unpredictable, rather than the fact that animals of very similar ability are "thrown" together, which is my personal view for the "unpredictability". As a consequence the longer prices in handicaps are sometimes overlayed (see Six Diamonds yesterday Newmarket 16:00, early priced at 16/1 with Bet Square, returned SP 8/1)
I am going to post horses fitting the criteria of my analysis, on this post and see where things go. The selections should be value if better than 11/1 or better (maybe Betfair, given their self-vaunted view that Betfair prices are on average 20% better than bookmakers and the difference is usually on longer priced animals) can be obtained. The strike rate is about 10%. Obviously with such a low strike rate there will be long losing runs, although there is some potential to trade these selectinos as they frequently reduce significantly in price.
Enough talk, today the interest is around BOLD CROSS 15:30 Bath, currently trading at 12 on Betfair.
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